Comments on: Quick thoughts:: Making my list, and checking it twice http://www.herohill.com/2011/07/quick-thoughts-making-my-list-and-checking-it-twice.htm ...yellin' it cuz no one else is tellin' it Thu, 14 Jul 2011 14:16:34 +0000 hourly 1 By: Matt http://www.herohill.com/2011/07/quick-thoughts-making-my-list-and-checking-it-twice.htm/comment-page-1#comment-7665 Matt Fri, 08 Jul 2011 04:45:45 +0000 http://www.herohill.com/?p=8871#comment-7665 A Ron Sexsmith record produced by Bob Rock is like getting a pair of knitted socks from your grandma. Extra boring yet sooooo comfortable. A Ron Sexsmith record produced by Bob Rock is like getting a pair of knitted socks from your grandma.

Extra boring yet sooooo comfortable.

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By: JiM http://www.herohill.com/2011/07/quick-thoughts-making-my-list-and-checking-it-twice.htm/comment-page-1#comment-7664 JiM Fri, 08 Jul 2011 02:20:23 +0000 http://www.herohill.com/?p=8871#comment-7664 Top notch, my friend. You've echoed many of my own thoughts after yesterday's list. I'm more than willing to give warm socks and discmans a chance, but I think we missed an opportunity to champion some truly great records this year. Oh well, on to 2011-12; I've already stared making out a list of possible contenders. My Benetton rugby shirt shirt was blue. What united colour did you have? Top notch, my friend. You’ve echoed many of my own thoughts after yesterday’s list. I’m more than willing to give warm socks and discmans a chance, but I think we missed an opportunity to champion some truly great records this year. Oh well, on to 2011-12; I’ve already stared making out a list of possible contenders.

My Benetton rugby shirt shirt was blue. What united colour did you have?

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By: Smansmith http://www.herohill.com/2011/07/quick-thoughts-making-my-list-and-checking-it-twice.htm/comment-page-1#comment-7663 Smansmith Thu, 07 Jul 2011 19:50:26 +0000 http://www.herohill.com/?p=8871#comment-7663 Very good read Ack, I can only image that I feel EXACTLY as you do - a respect for the results, but would have preferred an alternate set of contenders vying for the prize. Wasn't it Mr. Spock who said, "The votes of the many outweigh the votes of the few". I think it was Mr. Spock at least... Ultimately, taste is one's own and part of what I like is that my palette enjoys quality, off-the-beaten-path dishes. Well, what I personally see as quality at least...what do I know...I only voted for 1 album that made the short list - and that was only as I replaced a different album with it after the original album didn't even make the long list! There is always next year... ;-) Very good read Ack, I can only image that I feel EXACTLY as you do - a respect for the results, but would have preferred an alternate set of contenders vying for the prize.

Wasn’t it Mr. Spock who said, “The votes of the many outweigh the votes of the few”. I think it was Mr. Spock at least…

Ultimately, taste is one’s own and part of what I like is that my palette enjoys quality, off-the-beaten-path dishes. Well, what I personally see as quality at least…what do I know…I only voted for 1 album that made the short list - and that was only as I replaced a different album with it after the original album didn’t even make the long list!

There is always next year… ;-)

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By: ack http://www.herohill.com/2011/07/quick-thoughts-making-my-list-and-checking-it-twice.htm/comment-page-1#comment-7661 ack Thu, 07 Jul 2011 17:10:44 +0000 http://www.herohill.com/?p=8871#comment-7661 Ha. That needs to be a t-shirt. "My friends won't even let me play my iPhone during MY parties." Ha. That needs to be a t-shirt. “My friends won’t even let me play my iPhone during MY parties.”

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By: Michael Senchuk http://www.herohill.com/2011/07/quick-thoughts-making-my-list-and-checking-it-twice.htm/comment-page-1#comment-7660 Michael Senchuk Thu, 07 Jul 2011 17:08:51 +0000 http://www.herohill.com/?p=8871#comment-7660 You know, I really, really thought Dirty Beaches was going to sneak into the top ten. I felt a late buzz for their efforts, and thought it would be enough to get them in the ten. C'est la vie. Here's the way I look at it - my family/friends won't even let me play my iPhone during MY parties ... what makes me think a jury of 250-ish music writers will see the world the same as me? You know, I really, really thought Dirty Beaches was going to sneak into the top ten. I felt a late buzz for their efforts, and thought it would be enough to get them in the ten. C’est la vie.

Here’s the way I look at it - my family/friends won’t even let me play my iPhone during MY parties … what makes me think a jury of 250-ish music writers will see the world the same as me?

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By: Tara Thorne http://www.herohill.com/2011/07/quick-thoughts-making-my-list-and-checking-it-twice.htm/comment-page-1#comment-7659 Tara Thorne Thu, 07 Jul 2011 16:42:03 +0000 http://www.herohill.com/?p=8871#comment-7659 This is why I haven't participated in jurying awards since 2006. You put in the time, the effort, you have the in-person debates ("SLOAN HAS LIVED IN TORONTO AS LONG AS THEY EVER LIVED HERE," etc), and then in the end, the larger politics, campaigns and gladhanding favour system will always win out. But hey, the process AS PRESENTED was fair. BLAGH. This is why I haven’t participated in jurying awards since 2006. You put in the time, the effort, you have the in-person debates (“SLOAN HAS LIVED IN TORONTO AS LONG AS THEY EVER LIVED HERE,” etc), and then in the end, the larger politics, campaigns and gladhanding favour system will always win out. But hey, the process AS PRESENTED was fair.

BLAGH.

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By: ack http://www.herohill.com/2011/07/quick-thoughts-making-my-list-and-checking-it-twice.htm/comment-page-1#comment-7658 ack Thu, 07 Jul 2011 16:12:02 +0000 http://www.herohill.com/?p=8871#comment-7658 I think your passionate defense is exactly in line with my point. For every reason I don't like The Weeknd you have found reasons to champion the record. I don't disagree with your liking or the thoughtful reasons you have articulated... it's just not "my" list. I would say this is similar to my love of Dirty Beaches of Frederick Squire that others would dismiss instantly. For every little detail people grab hold of, others overlook. Oh, and I actually liked most of the records. I wasn't into the AF record or The Weeknd - especially if you want to lump that as as the one urban/r&b/hip-hop release - but I like Braids. I like Austra. I actually really like Sexsmith's record. I can see why people fell in love with Destroyer and Stetson. It's a strong list for sure, especially since people have been saying is this year has been weak for Canadian music. I think your passionate defense is exactly in line with my point. For every reason I don’t like The Weeknd you have found reasons to champion the record. I don’t disagree with your liking or the thoughtful reasons you have articulated… it’s just not “my” list. I would say this is similar to my love of Dirty Beaches of Frederick Squire that others would dismiss instantly. For every little detail people grab hold of, others overlook.

Oh, and I actually liked most of the records. I wasn’t into the AF record or The Weeknd - especially if you want to lump that as as the one urban/r&b/hip-hop release - but I like Braids. I like Austra. I actually really like Sexsmith’s record. I can see why people fell in love with Destroyer and Stetson. It’s a strong list for sure, especially since people have been saying is this year has been weak for Canadian music.

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By: Chris Wheeler http://www.herohill.com/2011/07/quick-thoughts-making-my-list-and-checking-it-twice.htm/comment-page-1#comment-7657 Chris Wheeler Thu, 07 Jul 2011 15:46:56 +0000 http://www.herohill.com/?p=8871#comment-7657 I agree with your assessment of nearly each of the records (I do feel I enjoyed some of these records more than you did ). But a word of support for The Weeknd's House of Balloons. You are right, the mixtape is a fleeting moment. It is fragile, frightening and shallow in content and context. The album cover, a naked girl in a bathtub protected only by a handful of balloons, actually speaks volumes about the material; pop a few balloons and then everything is bared. But there is a vulnerability and honesty there, whether you believe Abel Tesfaye actually lives the House of Balloons lifestyle or not, that verges on courageous. Being vulnerable is one of the most shared human experiences, and no mater how fleeting the moment, it can shape who we are as individuals or as a community, MJ being a perfect example. Capturing those moments with a photograph, or in a song, or in literature does not always do it justice, but on a few rare occasions they are captured exactly as they are in art. If we see even a faction of ourselves in that piece we are often immediately called to reject it, especially when the image presented is so dark and unwholesome. But you are right, the process by which we challenge ourselves can be immensely rewarding. Being aware of our own vices and vulnerability can be a very postive experience; "I need confidence in myself." For me, House of Balloons does all of this. As a mixtape, House of Balloons can be seen in a lot of ways. On one level it maintains its shallow intent by acting as a promotional tool, reaching for the limelight and support. With the involvement and newfound connection with big brother Drake, it has succeeded on this front. But why the honesty, why protect yourself with mere balloons? On another level the mixtape is a stepping stone to create something bigger, something to bide the time creatively while the real stew is taking shape and collecting flavour. Should those creative flourishes seek to be indelible and more than they are? Or should they seek to capture one emotion and make a connection, however slight or base. In a lot of ways this is all very new, especially to Polaris and Canadian music; the genre and delivery are relative unknowns. I for one find it incredibly exciting and compelling and hope it garners serious support and consideration for the top nod. I agree with your assessment of nearly each of the records (I do feel I enjoyed some of these records more than you did ). But a word of support for The Weeknd’s House of Balloons. You are right, the mixtape is a fleeting moment. It is fragile, frightening and shallow in content and context. The album cover, a naked girl in a bathtub protected only by a handful of balloons, actually speaks volumes about the material; pop a few balloons and then everything is bared.

But there is a vulnerability and honesty there, whether you believe Abel Tesfaye actually lives the House of Balloons lifestyle or not, that verges on courageous. Being vulnerable is one of the most shared human experiences, and no mater how fleeting the moment, it can shape who we are as individuals or as a community, MJ being a perfect example. Capturing those moments with a photograph, or in a song, or in literature does not always do it justice, but on a few rare occasions they are captured exactly as they are in art. If we see even a faction of ourselves in that piece we are often immediately called to reject it, especially when the image presented is so dark and unwholesome. But you are right, the process by which we challenge ourselves can be immensely rewarding. Being aware of our own vices and vulnerability can be a very postive experience; “I need confidence in myself.” For me, House of Balloons does all of this.

As a mixtape, House of Balloons can be seen in a lot of ways. On one level it maintains its shallow intent by acting as a promotional tool, reaching for the limelight and support. With the involvement and newfound connection with big brother Drake, it has succeeded on this front. But why the honesty, why protect yourself with mere balloons? On another level the mixtape is a stepping stone to create something bigger, something to bide the time creatively while the real stew is taking shape and collecting flavour. Should those creative flourishes seek to be indelible and more than they are? Or should they seek to capture one emotion and make a connection, however slight or base.

In a lot of ways this is all very new, especially to Polaris and Canadian music; the genre and delivery are relative unknowns. I for one find it incredibly exciting and compelling and hope it garners serious support and consideration for the top nod.

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